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krunck 5 hours ago [-]
These are projects designed to serve the US military in it's future wars against China and other "threats". Note that "other threats" includes the American citizenry. You'll be - probably already are - targets of continual AI propaganda and manipulation to keep you compliant and keep paying your taxes to support this waste.
RiverCrochet 2 hours ago [-]
When AI takes all jobs, how are the taxes gonna be paid?
collingreen 1 hours ago [-]
They aren't. Nobody in power is so dumb they haven't thought of this yet - the scary idea is that those people in power don't think this is a problem, which implies the normal folk like us are either on our own or actively exterminated.
If the billionaire class doesn't think they need taxes or a workforce then what does that look like? If the population goes from 8B to like 5K + robots for the drudgery then all the problems go away - no more war, no more climate change, no famine, no large logistics problems.
I continually worry that these people in power see the rest of us as a nuisance to optimize away.
RiverCrochet 10 minutes ago [-]
Why can't this happen now without AI?
- Certainly the current population level isn't needed to support the current number of billionaires. Isn't there about 1000 right now? I probably eat more than 2 or 3 of them.
- What happens in 100 years when the billionaires have kids and their kids have kids?
salemh 27 minutes ago [-]
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Ancalagon 39 minutes ago [-]
This feels insane. Does this feel insane to others?
pzxc 5 hours ago [-]
The data center project is by Shark Tank investor Kevin O'Leary and will consume 9GW, more power than the entire State of Utah currently consumes
nradov 5 hours ago [-]
It's not going to consume 9GW because it won't actually be built. There is no financing. The entire project is a scam.
It may still be built by someone else. Many PE firms are starting to built land portfolios for where a data center can be easily built. So the current owners of the project could just resell it to those with financing.
Arnt 3 hours ago [-]
Ah, when your write things like that, do you really think they'll come true?
If no: why do you write them?
pzxc 1 hours ago [-]
Yes, I really think the data center will consume that much power because that's the design
Yes, I really think that it will get built, because the people building data centers are throwing money/favors at politicians to get them approved
They should be furious. These tech companies are doing whatever they want, without a care for how it impacts others. SpaceX does it by polluting night skies. The others do it by polluting the planet. Things like light pollution and noise pollution really do matter. But it’s also a lot more direct than that, like people whose water supply loses pressure (https://www.gadgetreview.com/data-center-drains-30-million-g...) or turns brown (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48111599) after a data center is built near them.
astrange 3 hours ago [-]
Entirely fake. Or rather, the water issue is caused by there being /a construction project/, not because it's a data center.
tt24 3 hours ago [-]
Luddites
collingreen 1 hours ago [-]
After watching everything the luddites predicted come true this insult might not hit like you want it to.
If the billionaire class doesn't think they need taxes or a workforce then what does that look like? If the population goes from 8B to like 5K + robots for the drudgery then all the problems go away - no more war, no more climate change, no famine, no large logistics problems.
I continually worry that these people in power see the rest of us as a nuisance to optimize away.
- Certainly the current population level isn't needed to support the current number of billionaires. Isn't there about 1000 right now? I probably eat more than 2 or 3 of them.
- What happens in 100 years when the billionaires have kids and their kids have kids?
https://youtu.be/RWoV0EXxa7c
If no: why do you write them?
Yes, I really think that it will get built, because the people building data centers are throwing money/favors at politicians to get them approved
https://www.boxeldercountyut.gov/647/Stratos-Project-Fact-Sh...
heres a site mapfromthe FAQ:
https://www.boxeldercountyut.gov/644/Stratos-Project-Map
it strikes me that a swath of the salt ridge adjacent to the salt lake bed is desired.
the proximity to current naturalgas distribution infra, suggests a mulligan,made out of natural gas welling.
if there is a large salt dome and gas deposit, theres the revenue and free utilities.
Utah greenlights 9GW AI campus using over twice state electricity
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47932941
Utah data center: Projected daily heat equivalent to 23 atomic bombs
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48058221